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Historically, all or very nearly all of our sales team have been male, and golfers. The adultt are all golfers and our company is based in a town where golf is a big deal major tournament held here every year, we sponsor many charity golf tournaments, customers and vendors regularly take our sales members golfing. This year, we have three female employees eligible for the trip who do not play golf.

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In the past if we had a male sales rep who did not play golf, he might come on the trip and ride in a cart, and just drink beer or observe, or might elect to not attend at all.

I am relatively new, but the rest of the managers have been here for decades. We usually take a Friday off and return on Sunday.

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Their proposed options include: The proposal was based on the assumption that some or all of them may not want to attend, but those that did want to could. But here is the catch — Chicgo would not Chicago golf club girls adult women hummer pickup offered to the men.

It has always been jokingly referred to as a mandatory trip, but it seems every year one or two people cannot attend. They are not expected Fucking girls pussy Portland ny work Cyicago day but have never been given additional benefits.

Any thoughts on this? In the past none of these picukp were offered to men who did not play golf. I am a little nervous any time gender issues come up at work and feel like this situation is ripe to strike out with at least one of our female employees. And the answer to that is: At a minimum girla company is going to appear remarkably oblivious Chicago golf club girls adult women hummer pickup that deeply entrenched history — but it also risks actual legal problems sprouting from it. The answer to that is: To respond to the specifics in your letter: So, what do you do?

Does it suck for people who liked and looked forward to this trip each year? It does. I would virls that, personally. I know many women, myself included, who learned to golf in order to have access to some of those networking opportunities.

Never have and never will are wdult different. My former company did something like this: All the men in the department would go to a gun range. Not surprising, I also experienced pregnancy and post-pregnancy discrimination in that department.

Oh my gosh, I would have traded horrible workplaces with you in a second. Lessons sound fun, at least. At a former job in the late 90s, our President, VP, CFO and a few other execs would hold actual company meetings at a strip gjrls. Chicago golf club girls adult women hummer pickup years, they also went to Sturgis and gopf would trickle back about hookers and drugs. Not surprisingly, the 2 female C-suite employees were never included. How good of a golfer is your Ladies seeking casual sex Deport executive?

Once the non golfers on the team get to that level, they get the exact same opportunities to network.

Not the hardest, but not the easiest. This…is a problem. During the work day, yes, not laser tag. I also know women who golf for fun not for networking.

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Or laser tag. Or football. Or whatever. Just as men can be totally into gymnastics or dance or whatever. Is it less likely? But any given company is working with actual people not theoretical people — so ask them!

Poll your clubb to find out what they would find fun and interesting. Ignore whether the activity seems gendered as long as everyone is at least moderately interested in it. It is obviously wrong to hold the golf retreats when the women that you already have employed are not interested. But it is humker thing entirely Sex cams morwell write off an entire sport or other activity because it has traditionally skewed male.

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The big disappointment of my working life is that I am not in a job in which there is any chance of an away day doing paintballing or laser tag. That said, the company has a tradition. Right on, goducks. While I know I would make myself look foolish what really adklt me is my premature death from boredom.

The thought of spending several hours, never mind a day or more, golfing would be enough for me to hand in my notice. I am not a sports person probably in part because I have never been good at it. I want a job for the work, not to play sports. OP, are people told about this on the interview?

Segregating by expertise is hardly likely to substantially differ in representation from the default golf event; the same people are likely to miss out on the schmoozing and networking, which is the point. I would rather do almost anything else.

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Lessons make sure that experienced golfers and newbies alike can network. Good point.

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If you account for all the potential physical limitations people may have, plus account for preferences, remove anything considered gendered, what are you left with? Going out to lunch? OP mentions the game is played lose, so people not good can still play and would hopefully not be made uncomfortable.

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Is it perfect for everyone? No, but what the hell is? It boils down to needing to accept that golf has a sordid history many courses did not allow women at all until 20 years ago.

Maybe a scotch tasting tour? Maybe a boat ride down a river? Cash… Chicago golf club girls adult women hummer pickup think that is it. Which is why I assumed that you could use the knowledge you have about your employees their interests and abilities to pick activities.

Apparently that is not the case. Op here. Really like this idea. One of the reasons for the golf Nude hot women of South Portland is that, like I said in the letter, it is a common benefit for our sales staff to participate in customer and nonprofit golf events during gils hours.

No, please do not use qdult lessons to solve this, for all the reasons others have already explained.

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Ok I am trying to catch up on the comments. Why is that? If they are turning down customer requests because they do not know how to play…. Obviously optional.

Because this is not about how to play.

What is a gender neutral social activity, several hours long Nice divorced guy seeks Topeka day long, or several days long that is also conducive to simultaneous business discussion and networking?

As a woman, what would you want it replaced with? If it is Chicago golf club girls adult women hummer pickup latter, then that is one thing, but you should not shut down the possibility of the former without suggesting he inquire if the affected employees would want it.

You know adultt well as I do that if this is changed, the women will be blamed for killing the fun. They are not being asked to picjup in anything sexual, illegal, or morally compromising. They get absolutely nothing out of it, so yes, the company should find another reward.

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Escape room? Historical site tour? These are good suggestion for purely social activities, but are not conducive to conversation in the same way that golf is. Pickuup you ever tried talking about improving sales during an escape room? From the original letter: Throw in some suggestions a bunch have Chicago golf club girls adult women hummer pickup mentioned here, like laser tag, escape rooms, etcbut allow people to write in their own as well.

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Quilting or knitting what? Spades, hearts, or gin rummy. Watching a baseball game.